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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Commando 1985

With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano and Kyle Brandt · 29 March 2021 · 23,268 feet

The claim

68:31 – 73:48

… right? Oh, you know what? Cobra's got a lot. Automatically, I could think of in 300, 300 guys die. I know that for sure. Right, true. True. All right. Apex Mountain. Arnold Schwarzenegger, no. Radon Chong. Yeah. This is what she's known for. I'm going to go, yeah. This is a big movie. Sadly. Yeah. It should have been huge. It should have been bigger. Alyssa Milano, no. We didn't really talk about her. I mean, she's like eight years old in this movie. Yeah. She's doing Who's the Boss, right? At the time. So, this raises the Apex Mountain question for her. She's on Who's the Boss, which is a major show. …

The whole segment, as transcribed

I think this, I know this is the one for, this is like the most deaths for Arnold. How many, Cobra has to be in the hundreds, right? Oh, you know what? Cobra's got a lot. Automatically, I could think of in 300, 300 guys die. I know that for sure. Right, true. True. All right. Apex Mountain. Arnold Schwarzenegger, no. Radon Chong. Yeah. This is what she's known for. I'm going to go, yeah. This is a big movie. Sadly. Yeah. It should have been huge. It should have been bigger. Alyssa Milano, no. We didn't really talk about her. I mean, she's like eight years old in this movie. Yeah. She's doing Who's the Boss, right? At the time. So, this raises the Apex Mountain question for her. She's on Who's the Boss, which is a major show. She's in and on a Schwarzenegger movie. Could this have been her Apex Mountain? There is a, there is, look, I have to enter a third woman in the ring. There is a whole, also, like, charmed army out there. So, I was going to say charmed. That show is very popular, too. For me, it's Who's the Boss? It's she, Danza, Judith Light, et al. I think that's what she is known for, aside from politics these days. And she was Melrose Place the last, like, year and a half of Melrose Place. I also think it's charmed because every night when TNT is on, like that Thursday night, you watch TNT game, you see Bark and those guys turn off the TV, go to bed. If you turn on TV the next day, like, I'll see what first take or good morning football with Kyle Brandt. Sure. Fucking charms on TNT. It's just not all morning. It's just three witches. Dory just chewing us up. That's great. Three witches with the blonde-haired guy. I don't know. It's 20 years ago. It's still on. Bill Duke for Apex Mountain. I'm going to say no. Nah. We know it is Apex Mountain. Yeah. Vernon Wells. So, our choices are Mad Max, Weird Science, or this movie. I, I. I would say probably this. Yeah. This is the one you remember. Because this is always a situation where it's like, oh, when you watch this movie, oh, that's the guy. Oh, he was in the, the other movie. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is the one you reference. And he was in Weird Science same year. Yeah. Basically, like, a self-parody of this character. Yeah. Cream Magazine. I'm going to say no for Apex Mountain. Mid-80s yellow Porsches. I, I actually think yes. This is probably the best use of a mid-80s. It's very good. Dan Hedaya, definitely not. Missile Launchers? Like Bazookas? Yeah. Bazooka, whatever that was. Yeah, I'm for it. I'm for it. This is the first one I think of. The Harold Lloyd Estate, I would say no. Beverly Hills Cop. And then Val Verde. I'm, that's what, since it was a fictional country made, made in this movie, I'm going to, I'm going to say yes. Any other Apex Mountain candidates for you guys? What do you got, Shay? No, those are the, those are the only ones. I would volunteer one, Bill. I'm sorry. Apex Mountain Chainmail? There's a lot, Chainmail is one of the characters in this, in this movie. And I know there's been a lot of night movies and stuff, but Bennett's attire and his chain mail that he's wearing. I have to be honest. I think we've let Vernon Wells and Bennett skate in this podcast of like how ridiculous his appearances and let's, guys, he, this is the guy who showed up to set to have a fist fight with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the mid eighties. Like it's preposterous. And I, Bill, you said he was a late edition casting. Like when Vernon Wells showed up to day one of shooting, are they like, uh, where's the guy from Mad Max with the shoulder pads and the feather? Like, and then they, like, I almost think they put the chain mail on him maybe to like weigh down his physique to make him slimming. Like one of these things like that you wear under your clothes, it's a distractingly lacking physique. You think he was wearing slim fit chain mail? Yeah. I think it's like a slim fit chain mail to be like, we got to do something. And it's like, Freddie Mercury on steroids. It's the only eighties movie you watch where you look at the villain and you're like, I think he needs more steroids. Like there's no muscle at all. It's distracting to me to this day. So I think chain mail and his physique. I would say it was the eighties and there was just an incredible amount of cocaine happening in 1985 and stuff just slid under the radar left and right. Nobody looking at each other and going, Hey, wait a second. Our audience is never buying this being a fair fight for one second. Can we get burned in some sleeves maybe? Just, he's got arms like these, these Kevin Durant arms and he's going against Schwarzenegger. It's just, it's distracting in the middle of the fight. I wish they would have made a different wardrobe choice, but they rolled with it. You know, what's crazy is, so we're all just going to take turns like shitting on Bennett for a few minutes. But if I'm, if you say, Hey, name Arnold's enemies that he's fought in movies, Bennett is one of the first two or three that I'm going to say. Who really gave it to him. Yeah. He gave it to him. Yeah. He could have killed him. He just could have straight up killed him. He like misplayed it a bit. I gotta say he kind of, he kind of blew a 10 point lead down the stretch there. Yeah. Even after he put the gun down, he had, he had Arnold back to him up against the wall, ready to, he should have won. Mm-hmm. Well, that leads me to our first pick and knit. So Arnold gets shot during that scene in his shoulder and then he's like, come on, I'll fight you with one arm. And two minutes later, he's just using both arms. He's throwing stuff. Like what happened to the bullet wounds? Just gone? Was it? It healed. Went straight through? Wolverine. Yeah. He's like, ah. Cause he wasn't worried about that abdomen wound anymore either. Like he's fine. But I'm getting to your point, Bill.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Bill Paxton21,720 ftFrailty, 2002, by 4,075 feet.

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