Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
57:18 – 60:06… is like hitting on her at the key party. I was like, she's she's fucking amazing. She's a great actor. Yeah. We'll be talking about her again when we get to Apex Mountain. Best supporting actress that year for Oscars. Kim Basinger won for LA Confidential. It's all right. I don't feel. She's okay. I'm like a five out of ten on that one. Joan Cusack in In-N-Out. Great. Mini Driver in Goodwill Hunting. Julianne Moore in Boogie Nights. Elite. Amber Waves. Gloria Stewart in Titanic. Yeah. CR's favorite performance of the year. Yeah. Riveting. That's an abomination of a nomination. She was a screen legend. It had …
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say that's the person who should have been nominated? It's pretty high level Joan Allen. I was just going to say Joan Allen. I had her too. Tearing up to that reverend when he is like hitting on her at the key party. I was like, she's she's fucking amazing. She's a great actor. Yeah. We'll be talking about her again when we get to Apex Mountain. Best supporting actress that year for Oscars. Kim Basinger won for LA Confidential. It's all right. I don't feel. She's okay. I'm like a five out of ten on that one. Joan Cusack in In-N-Out. Great. Mini Driver in Goodwill Hunting. Julianne Moore in Boogie Nights. Elite. Amber Waves. Gloria Stewart in Titanic. Yeah. CR's favorite performance of the year. Yeah. Riveting. That's an abomination of a nomination. She was a screen legend. It had been like 50 years since she'd been in a movie. Terrible. I think that was Joan Allen's spot. Yeah. She should have been nominated. Gloria Stewart was 91 and they were like, it's time. Yeah. Nobody knows who Gloria Stewart is. It's cool. Old lady telling a couple stories. I'm sorry. You don't get invited to the Oscars for that. Come on. That's tough. Also, Roller Girl? Heather Graham? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't argue. I wouldn't argue. I mean, I don't know. Burt Reynolds got fucked this year too. It's a tough year. I mean, there's so many good movies. We just listed a bunch of them. We've litigated the best supporting actor before. All right. What's age the worst? Waterbeds. I just see waterbeds in movies. Going through a revival though with licorice pizza. Licorice pizza brought it back. I know, but every time I see waterbeds, I'm always like, what were we thinking back then? What was fun about a waterbed? I remember my Uncle Mark and Aunt Louise had one. Just sleeping on a waterbed is completely insane. I can't believe anybody ever thought that was a good idea. You're not with me? It's why most of the people from that generation have debilitating back problems too. They're like Tracy McGrady, like rolling it out just to like go to a cracker barrel somewhere. I can't think of a worse thing to sleep on than a waterbed. The premature ejaculator. Jamie Sheridan? Yeah. It's just always tough to watch in movies. So you, like, it literally aged the worst that he came to quickly? Last 20 more seconds. Come on, dude. That's his, his orgasm aged the worst. He literally was having orgasm as he was taking his pants off. No matter what we're talking about on this podcast, no matter how intimate it is, we always somehow drift into like you kind of talking about things as if we're talking about the all NBA team.
72:00 – 80:22… 70s. Okay. Yeah. Do we see somebody else smoking Newports at a certain point in the movie? I think Newports are around. Yeah, menthols are around. Yeah. Okay. Apex Mountain. Klein? No. Weaver has this movie and Alien Resurrection same year, but I still would say no. What hers is is an interesting conversation, though. Is it Ghostbusters? Is it like Alien? I think it's Alien in 86. Or Aliens 2, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, it's right around Working Girl 2. You know, she's... I felt like she was one of the biggest stars in the world right around. It's somewhere in there. Ang Lee, no. What's Ang Lee's? I think it's …
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When do lights kind of come in? I think late 70s. Okay. Yeah. Do we see somebody else smoking Newports at a certain point in the movie? I think Newports are around. Yeah, menthols are around. Yeah. Okay. Apex Mountain. Klein? No. Weaver has this movie and Alien Resurrection same year, but I still would say no. What hers is is an interesting conversation, though. Is it Ghostbusters? Is it like Alien? I think it's Alien in 86. Or Aliens 2, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, it's right around Working Girl 2. You know, she's... I felt like she was one of the biggest stars in the world right around. It's somewhere in there. Ang Lee, no. What's Ang Lee's? I think it's Brokeback. Yeah. Yeah. He has two Best Actor, Best Director Oscars, by the way. One of the very few people who's won twice, because he won for Life of Pi as well. Oh, that's right. Which was a little bit of a surprise. Haven't really sketched out Fucked Up Family February for 2023 yet, but Brokeback Mountain is definitely one of the contenders. Yep. Fucked Up Cowboy February. Tough movie for the Michelle Williams character in that one. She's awesome in that movie, by the way. She's great. Hathaway's great in that. Yeah. I think that movie's incredible. Joan Allen, Apex Mountain. So... Let's do it. Let's fucking talk... Want to take a break and talk Joan Allen? Great. Sure. We'll take a break. This episode is brought to you by the Hulu original series, Chad Powers, starring our friend, Glenn Powell. This season, the walls are closing in on Chad's biggest secret. And with his future on the field hanging in the balance, he'll have to win back the one coach who wants nothing to do with him. Watch the new season of Chad Powers on September 3rd, streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. For bundle subscribers, terms apply. Okay. Coming back. Joan Allen, Apex Mountain. Go ahead, Chris. So it's this or Born, right? The first Born movie that she's in. Now, see, Chris, you've already... No, it's not... There's another... There's another movie. You botched the snap. The snap's rolling around. You already lost the action. You don't think it's 04 where she's Pamela Landy in the biggest action franchise in the world? You think it's this? It's Ice Storm and Face Off in the same year leading to Pleasantville. This is the wheelhouse for her. Or is it 2000 when she is the star of The Contender? Well, The Contender didn't do that well, though. But she's nominated for an Oscar. Yeah. And she was not very... Oh, shit. I forgot she was nominated. She's very rarely the lead. She's like one of the great, I play the number two of this generation. Also, she hasn't been in a movie in freaking forever. She was in that show Lisey Story. That's right. Yeah. That's right. I'm going to read the people some Joan Allen. Manhunter? Mm-hmm. Movie near and dear to Chris and my heart. Blind Lady with a Tiger. Searching for Bobby Fisher. My son is better at this than everything you've ever been at in your whole life. That's not a... Don't tell me it's just a game. I don't think that's a Joan Allen line. No, but she was married... She was married to the guy. Sean, you're not invited to the Searching for Bobby Fisher. It's okay. It's all right. It's an all right movie. You're not going to miss much. She was the mom in Mad Love with Chris O'Donnell and Drew Barrymore. They had a mad love, that movie. Pat Nixon? Yeah. The Crucible? And then she rips it off, culminating in The Contender, but really good in Born Supremacy. And actually, she was in a bunch of Born movies. But then I really liked the upside of anger. I thought that movie was good. And that kind of came and went. And it was almost in the wrong decade. It should have come out in like 1997. And it would have been, I think, a different movie. For the sake of this part, I'll say this is her apex. I still think Pamela Landy's some incredible stuff. Don't do Joan Allen any favors, okay, Chris? Sean, you're out on the upside of anger? No, I like it. That's the Mike Bender movie? Costner? Oh, yeah. It kind of pulled back Costner a little bit. Costner had kind of sailed off for a couple years. So he didn't know where Costner, and then he kind of, we reeled him back in with upside anger. Erica Christensen's in it, too. What's the premise? Is he... When her husband unexpectedly disappears, a sharp-witted suburban wife and her daughters juggle their mom's romantic dilemmas and family dynamics. And he's like a new guy who kind of, he's like a family friend who comes into the picture, right? He's not the husband. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, yeah. That's a cool movie. I like that movie. I love Joan Allen. Also, great daughters situation. It's Alicia Witt, Carrie Russell, Erica Christensen, and Evan Rachel Wood, all icons of the early 2000s. Telling you. Yeah. Telling you. That movie, I don't know what happened with that movie. Joan Allen, one of the best moms. Mm-hmm. She's played these different variations of moms, but always super believable as a mom. Tobey Maguire, no. Katie Holmes, no. Key parties, 100%. Yes. Yeah. Thumbs fucking up for Apex Mountain for key parties. What about... Premature ejaculation scenes? I'm still going Forrest Gump. Wait, I got to ask you something about key parties really quickly. Like, I think it's possible that there was an Apex Mountain for key parties that we just don't know about. Right. You know, like, was there a key party that, like, Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton Oh, like at the Playboy Mansion. Right. Yeah, exactly. Oh, fair enough. So you're saying we don't... We wouldn't know the Apex. This is... Or is, like, the work-collected fiction of John Updike the Apex Mountain for key parties? Yes. Or is, like, is thy neighbor's wife, you know, the book? Is that the... Is that it? You know? Like, I don't know. It's a pretty big category. Swapping partners. Fair. How about premature ejaculation scenes? I'm still going Forrest Gump. You're the expert, Bill. Well, I'm going to say Forrest Gump. We should, on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel, we should do a compilation of all the great premature ejaculation sequences. And you can kind of just do that director's commentary. And you just be like, I just wanted one more pump from Jamie Sheridan. Three more pumps. The video would end abruptly. Oh, that's funny. Pick a dits. Would someone in boarding school in 1973 really have a Nixon poster over their bed? Yeah. I know we're trying to work Nixon into this, but is he still... I don't know. You told me. Weren't you obsessed with who killed Kennedy by this point in your life? Like, why is this a weird... I just never would have had a poster of a president. I think it was ironic. Nixon was still president at that point. Was it ironic? Yeah. I don't know. I couldn't get that. All right. This is a big one. So, Jamie Sheridan's character. If you're the dad of the dead kid, isn't your instinct that drunk Kevin Kline hit him with his car? There's no follow-up questions. He's just like, oh, I just found him on the road. It's never like, what do you mean you found him on... It's like you were fucking passed out in the bathroom, dude. You didn't hit him with the car? I just have so many questions other than my son's dead. It's a legit question. I'm like, what happened? Did you hit him with that? You're just way... I just think you handled that differently. Any other nitpicks? Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand how the key party is organized. What do you mean? So, I think everybody puts their keys in the bowl. And then over the course of the night... No. I know how a key party in general is organized. But this one, in terms of the invites, we've got a couple of wrinkles here. One wrinkle is we know that there is a woman who has brought her son, which is just heinous. That person should be imprisoned. Two, there's a single reverend there. Yeah. I feel like he invited himself. He overheard about it at the grocery store and was like, do you think I could come? Okay. So, having never been to a key party, can single people go to key parties? So, to me, it's like the early days of fantasy football. Yeah. Just like that. Yeah. We needed to figure out the rules for a few years. And then eventually, we stumbled into where we had some organization to it.
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