Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
17:15 – 20:02… is probably Oz broke out the dick. Scene for scene? Yeah. That is the most, that's the pioneering dick show, at least in my life. Well, they said Euphoria is Apex Mountain for dicks. I have to have a lot of for you. They had a special dick episode. There's like 50 of them. Right, the math is skewed because of the locker room sequence where you get, you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of dicks in one sequence. There you go. Lots of dicks. Nev Campbell. Fell, fell in love with her, America, Party of Five. That poor, tortured Salinger family, lost their kids in a car accident, had to keep the restaurant. Just …
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Just trying to sit here and have some popcorn. But really, but when I think about it, Oz, Oz is probably Oz broke out the dick. Scene for scene? Yeah. That is the most, that's the pioneering dick show, at least in my life. Well, they said Euphoria is Apex Mountain for dicks. I have to have a lot of for you. They had a special dick episode. There's like 50 of them. Right, the math is skewed because of the locker room sequence where you get, you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of dicks in one sequence. There you go. Lots of dicks. Nev Campbell. Fell, fell in love with her, America, Party of Five. That poor, tortured Salinger family, lost their kids in a car accident, had to keep the restaurant. Just one terrible thing after another would happen to those crazy kids. And, Party of Five. Yeah. I love that show. So, I never fucked with anyone. They may not own it on Roku. Yeah. Voodoo, one of those. But, when you think about it. Old DVD box set? No? Matthew Fox. It was a little like $9.99 special. I was like, fine. Matthew Fox, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Nev Campbell. J Love. Scott Wolf. Scott Wolf, Lisa Charbet, like that. One of the Londons. Not, not, not, uh, Dazed and Confused, but the, the other London. The other London. Not Randy Pink Floyd, but his brother. You know, the show went on to put a bunch of people in our lives that stayed there for a while. It's like, it's a sneaky, good, like, incubator for future Hollywood stalwarts. Nev Campbell, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Matthew Fox, at least, they're all still around. Very important 90s show for talking to women. Oh. Being able to be versed in some of the shows that were coming on. Oh, because it gave you something to talk about with them, not because it taught you how to talk to women? No, not because it taught me. Yeah. It was just a nice little, oh, Party Five? Yeah, what the fuck's going on with Bailey? He's drinking again? Dude, like, what? You watch Party Five? Yeah. I'm ready to go five minutes right now. Which show or movie taught you how to talk to women? Wild Things? Which show or movie taught me? Yeah. Well, you have to go to the 80s for that, right? Okay, I'm interested in this. What's the conversation? I mean, I would say it's more what taught you not to. Okay. So, more like tales of caution, what to avoid. No one you're modeling your behavior after. Who you don't want to be, the character you don't want to be in the movie. Yeah. Interesting. Who are those guys? Who are those guys? It's more like the When Harry Met Sally type of people. Oh. Yeah, the people that were mean and then came around. Johnny Lawrence? Don't want to be him. Don't want to be the villains. Yeah. Neve Campbell, Party of Five. This is the era of they take the person out of the TV show that everybody's watching. Party of Five almost got canceled every year. It was always after like 90210 or whatever Fox show. It was very beloved. People would try to save it. The audience was always just good enough to keep. Yeah. But it became this movie engine with her and Jennifer Love Hewitt. So she's in The Craft. She's the lead in Scream,
30:00 – 33:21… But yeah, this was it. This was a really hot, she flew very close to the sun in one movie and that's kind of where it ended. I was going to save this for Apex Mountain but let's do it now. I'm going to ask you guys now. Emerging from a swimming pool in a bathing suit sopping wet. Is it this or Phoebe Cates? No. It's probably this. It's probably this. I'll tell you what. I would say it's Phoebe Cates. Interesting. Phoebe Cates from a cultural unpack but this is like, I mean, well, for that scene, for that type of scene, it's emerging from the swimming pool is probably, that might be a tie. I thought you …
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It's Denise Richards. I saw her the Charlie Sheen documentary which I did not like but she was in that. But yeah, this was it. This was a really hot, she flew very close to the sun in one movie and that's kind of where it ended. I was going to save this for Apex Mountain but let's do it now. I'm going to ask you guys now. Emerging from a swimming pool in a bathing suit sopping wet. Is it this or Phoebe Cates? No. It's probably this. It's probably this. I'll tell you what. I would say it's Phoebe Cates. Interesting. Phoebe Cates from a cultural unpack but this is like, I mean, well, for that scene, for that type of scene, it's emerging from the swimming pool is probably, that might be a tie. I thought you meant whether or not this was the Apex Mountain of Phoebe Cates or the Apex Mountain of Denise Richards. No, specifically for emerging from a pool and your suit We need more people emerging from pools. Yeah. Great. It's probably Phoebe Cates. Yeah. Great. Don't hate on Jessica Biel and Summer Catch. Oh, yeah. I mean, talk about a great movie. Talk about a seminal movie in my youth. Yeah. Then we have Matt Dillon who was a big up and comer in the 80s for a while and led a bunch of movies and was right at the forefront of that. Timothy Hutton, Cruz, all those guys. He was probably the most successful guy for a while. Outsiders had a big role. Yep. Just like from a, felt like he was going to be the most famous. Died down a little, came back in the mid-90s to die for, beautiful girls, in and out, 98, wild things, and there's something about Mary. In the same year. Same year. Just astonishing. Great job by him. One of the leading tweeners. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The tweeners like, what happened to a lot of these guys, and Kevin Bacon is in that crew too, is the ceiling got set so fucking high by Hanks and Cruz and Brad Pitt. And then the guys right under that ceiling, if you're talking about like Bruce, it was just an enormously high ceiling that, there was a group of tweeners that you could really rely on to give you good performances and good movies and stuff like that. Rob Lowe's in there, I think too. Rob Lowe to a degree. Judd Nelson for two years. Jeff fucked it up. Jeff fucked it up. But like, a lot of the, for a while, Emilio Estevez was in there for a while. He's still there for me. But like, of course. But to me, all of those guys in there, like who was the best of those guys that would lead those types of movies, leading movies, but not like A plus list movie stars? He was way up there. This is like the perfect use of him. And really, this is the perfect year for him because he gets to be so funny and there's something about Mary. But in this movie, it's like he is handsome. He's handsome enough and enough of a leading man to be convincing, not only in the, like, you know, you think of the opening stretch of the film where you kind of, the camera's initially, like his eyes and then we move to the back of his head and every one of the students is looking at him and they all want to fuck him and you're like, oh, he can have this effect on people. But he's also a little off enough, like just a little creepy enough that you buy every subsequent situation and reveal across the film. Yeah. Then you believe it when you get the line from Ray, like, in the Jimmy scene. You know, he didn't have to work his way through college on a boat. Like, he was there on an athletic scholarship at Miami.
106:37 – 109:26… have to switch locations. But it's only the first nine minutes. There are four minutes. Sting over here, baby. You guys have heard the lore. We're not even at Apex Mountain yet. Apex Mountain, Denise Richards, 100% yes. Without a doubt. Without a question. Neve Campbell, probably yes too. Party of Five still on, coming off Scream. It's either Scream or this. Scream. She's still doing that role today. That's true. So you would say 96 Scream? Because I would argue this, like, actually combining this. Because this is like, right with Scream 2, right? But it didn't really lead to an awesome thing, so maybe not. …
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For the first nine minutes, just an incredible flex from him right there. Notice how he didn't say 10. He felt like 10 was too aggressive. For the first nine minutes, I enjoy. Then you have to, you have to switch locations. But it's only the first nine minutes. There are four minutes. Sting over here, baby. You guys have heard the lore. We're not even at Apex Mountain yet. Apex Mountain, Denise Richards, 100% yes. Without a doubt. Without a question. Neve Campbell, probably yes too. Party of Five still on, coming off Scream. It's either Scream or this. Scream. She's still doing that role today. That's true. So you would say 96 Scream? Because I would argue this, like, actually combining this. Because this is like, right with Scream 2, right? But it didn't really lead to an awesome thing, so maybe not. Threesome scenes in a movie. Oh boy. I don't know if this was the best ever, but it was certainly the... The most ballyhooed. It was the Dr. J in the dunk contest. It's like, whoa, he dunked from the foul end. What the hell just happened? I didn't know a human could do that. Did I just see that correctly? Kevin Bacon, no. Matt Dillon, yes, because of this and there's something about Mary. I think this was... Yeah, for sure. He's got it all going. Blue Bay, Florida? I'm going to say yes because this isn't a real place. Great name for a town. Bill Murray, no way. No. High school sailing teams? Maybe. Maybe. The movie? Can't remember that in another movie. Interesting. Champagne being used where it seems like a gun, but then it turns out to be champagne to kick off a threesome? Sure. Just a wonderful creative choice. Cruz or Hanks? Cruz and Hanks. Yeah, that was my answer too. Cruz is Sam. Hanks is Ray. We're not... Everybody tries to change this way. Then Cruz is Sam Lombardo. Who is Matt Dillon? Cruz is Sam Lombardo. Matt Dillon is Tom Cruise. Tom Hanks has no place in this movie Tom Cruise. except opposite Tom Hanks. opposite Tom Cruise if they're both in the movie. Hold up the photo again. Yeah, exactly. Trying to picture Cruz here. Yeah. Yeah! Really trying. Yeah! Cruz could be a great Sam Lombardo, I think. This is a year before Eyes Wide Shut. I'm trying to think where he'd run though in this movie. Probably have to add that. Maybe he's jogging? To or from a dock to get on a boat? The car scene when the car pushes Matt Dillon's car off, maybe he's jogging and the car pushes him off the road as a jogger. That's kind of a crazy scene. Sprinting? I love that. Sam didn't factor that into the equation. That's one of the places I had this as a picking nit. It's like not, it's a really unreasonable part of their plot. He easily could have died there. Someone could kill me actually because of this. Also, that's where an alligator could have eaten someone. Could have eaten Frankie. Yeah. Missed opportunity. Scorsese or Spielberg? This is Scorsese. No question, Scorsese. Best hang, worst hang, Bill Murray, best hang, worst hang alligator guy? The guy putting teeth that he found in his mouth? Yes. Oh, Walterie. Yeah.
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