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Den of Thieves 2018

With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano and Chris Ryan · 15 October 2019 · 22,440 feet

The claim

75:47 – 80:00

… your- You're losing- It's not a diamond that we found in South Africa and brought back and hit my ass. Don't make me set up the tech. We're almost done. Apex Mountain. I don't appreciate you popping off, Bill. Butler, 100%. Apex Mountain. If this isn't Butler's Apex Mountain, I'm leaving. I mean, you think it's- This is Apex Mountain? Don't give me 300. No, fuck 300. This movie's going to live on for 100 years. I think that's the- They play 300 before Lakers games. No. 300's already- People are done with 300. Yeah, that's the argument to make here. 300 was like a bigger- It was a thing. A bigger cultural …

The whole segment, as transcribed

I love that you guys are both convinced that a movie that's 41% on Rotten Tomatoes is flawless. We did a fucking 90-minute proof of life podcast. I love this movie. I'm just saying. It's not- You're losing your- You're losing- It's not a diamond that we found in South Africa and brought back and hit my ass. Don't make me set up the tech. We're almost done. Apex Mountain. I don't appreciate you popping off, Bill. Butler, 100%. Apex Mountain. If this isn't Butler's Apex Mountain, I'm leaving. I mean, you think it's- This is Apex Mountain? Don't give me 300. No, fuck 300. This movie's going to live on for 100 years. I think that's the- They play 300 before Lakers games. No. 300's already- People are done with 300. Yeah, that's the argument to make here. 300 was like a bigger- It was a thing. A bigger cultural moment. It was a thing, and it ended. But it's going to be gone. Yeah. Den of Thieves is going to be around forever. It's definitely not- Den of Thieves is going to be on Showtime for 100 years. It's not 50 cents. No. It's- No, it's not 50 cents. You're saying it's Butler's. What's 50 cents? Get rich or die trying? Yeah. Yeah. It's Pablo Schreiber's Apex Mountain. Absolutely. He's fucking awesome in this movie. Right now it is, yeah. I think he's got a bigger career ahead of him now. I just said that he could have been Dom Toretto and Shade didn't punch me. Yeah. How is that not as Apex Mountain? Schreiber, Apex Mountain. He's really good. Who else? What about Hawthorne? I mean, it's not really Hawthorne, so that would have been a step in the right direction. How about Long Beach Poly football? Nostalgia. Is it Long Beach Poly to have two guys get killed on a highway, or is it Deshaun Jackson playing there? Yeah, maybe Deshaun Jackson. What about Benny Hanna movie scenes? Apex Mountain. Yeah, definitely. Apex for Benny Hanna. It's this. Rocky Aoki. And then under that, it was that scene in the office when they go to Benny Hanna. What about heist movies that rip off heat? Apex Mountain. Apex Mountain. Okay. For sure. I would say Dark Knight is the heist movie that rips off heat. Apex Mountain. Oh, here we go. More than this movie? Here we go. It was like 10 years after Heat. They were just like, let's just make heat. This movie ends with Gerard Butler basically doing the Pacino De Niro hand thing. It is the most indebted to heat. It's like, oh my God, you had to do that? I just think that the most popular movie ever made to rip off heat was Dark Knight. I like that they made it seem like Butler and Schreiber had any connection at all. I know. It's just like, hey man. It's like all these guys fucking hated each other and their closest ever came was a gun range where they shot next to each other. But they also kind of like each other. Can I tell you a quick story? Yeah. This is like a cool thing that happened is the last time I was out in LA, I was in the hotel just minding my business and my phone rang and it was a number I didn't recognize and I answered it and it was Guttegast, the writer and director of this movie. Yeah. Were you saving this for like the 58th minute of the podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, oh, hey, what's up? I saw the thing. I wrote a thing about Den of Thieves on TheRinger.com. I saw the thing you wrote. I really, I really liked it. I just want to reach out and like talk to you for a minute. And then we talked about Den of Thieves for like 30 minutes and he was the nicest guy in the world. They're doing Den of Thieves 2. He was talking about that. He was asking, do you want me to tell you about Den of Thieves 2? And I was like, absolutely not. Don't tell me one single thing. I want to watch it in the theater. Are they filming that now? Yeah. When that trailer comes out? Oh God. I don't know what's going to happen. You're flying in for the office. She's on a Concorde. They don't even make the Concorde anymore. He's flying in. Picking Nits. I've worked in a lot less secure places than the Federal Reserve Bank. I still had to go meet the delivery guy in the lobby. Like they don't just let delivery guys go up into offices. I don't know. They let them into my office building. Don't you work in like just like a random place? Yeah, we don't have a lock or anything. My biggest nitpick is I think Schreiber's crew either kills Donnie or cuts ties with him before the ice. They definitely execute Donnie right after Penny on it. No, the reason that they don't do that is because they know that he's connected to them. And so they need for the, they need for Gerard Butler's team to be at the Pico Sings. The fake location. And that's how they get the information. Because he tells them, make sure they're here on Friday. I still think they're killing Donnie at some point before. The plan was probably to kill him afterward. We're not going to give him any money. We need him right now to get them to a spot. 50 Cent cares so much more about intimidating his daughter's prom date than whether he lives. Weird. He cares about her. It's a weird one for me. He cares about her more than him.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Gerard Butler23,340 ft300, 2007, by 3,856 feet.

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