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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Out of Sight 1998

With Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo and Bill Lawrence · 2 February 2021 · 24,003 feet

The claim

93:36 – 98:19

… your big mouth off. And then White Boy Bob at the end of the movie literally shoots his mouth off and actually kills himself. So it's like a little callback. Apex Mountain, um, George Clooney, I'm going to say no. Oh, I thought you were going to say George. Well, cause this movie wasn't like a, I would say Ocean's Eleven for George, right? That's true. It's the pinnacle of this guy. Cause that movie actually really succeeded and set up the rest. You're right, you're right. J-Lo's an interesting one. Um, I, I think her Apex Mountain probably came maybe two years later when, when her, whatever that album was …

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When Ving Rhames meets White Boy Bob, he says, oh, so tell me, what do you do now? White Boy Bob outside of shoot your big mouth off. And then White Boy Bob at the end of the movie literally shoots his mouth off and actually kills himself. So it's like a little callback. Apex Mountain, um, George Clooney, I'm going to say no. Oh, I thought you were going to say George. Well, cause this movie wasn't like a, I would say Ocean's Eleven for George, right? That's true. It's the pinnacle of this guy. Cause that movie actually really succeeded and set up the rest. You're right, you're right. J-Lo's an interesting one. Um, I, I think her Apex Mountain probably came maybe two years later when, when her, whatever that album was became a huge thing and she became this multimedia threat basically. I don't, I don't know if it was this movie. Soderbergh, no. Ving Rhames? No. Probably Pulp Fiction. Has to be, right? Um, Elmore Leonard? Get Shorty. And he still released a movie, books in the nineties. I think Get Shorty's, it felt more. I don't know. I think Get Shorty's the, the one that stands out more from that decade. It's more on the zeitgeist. Yeah. But this is cooler. How about, um, steaks in a fridge? Apex Mountain? How about Detroit? No. I'm surprised. Beverly Hills Cop? What was the Apex Mountain for Detroit? It's, it's probably eighties, right? Isaiah Thomas and Axel Foley. Yeah. It's Silverdome. The cars are still going. WrestleMania three at the Silverdome. It's probably right around 87, right? I'm surprised you like Detroit because of this movie. It's every time it's, it's like the Revenant. It's cold. It's dark. The lighting. It reminded me of a bearer scene with DiCaprio. It reminded me of Detroit. Um, it did blow me away that it's a Detroit movie. And then when they go out into the beautiful snow to Albert Brooks house, you're like, oh, shit, that's gorgeous. It seemed, you know what I mean? So it did in a cool way. Every time I see Detroit, it's just eight mile Detroit. And they mixed eight mile Detroit with, oh, there's suburbs that are stunning. You know? Right. I think, uh, Detroit apex mountains somewhere in the mid eighties. Cause you have Tommy Hearns, you have Isaiah and the Pistons, you have WrestleMania three at the Silverdome and just a lot going on the cronk gyms at its heights. Um, picking knits. I only have a couple, the back and forth chronology. I think as a rewatchable, it works cause you're used to it. But I remember the first time seeing this movie, having a little trouble following where we were and going back and forth and stuff like that. Um, I don't know if there's a better way they could have done it. I don't know whether they're doing little timestamps or something like that, but I feel like that would have taken you out of the flow. Um, I think they were just assuming like, you'll get this. We're going back and forth, but it is a tiny bit confusing. Uh, there's one thing I really, and I could be wrong. Okay. So you, but you see if it struck you guys nitpicking is it Jennifer Lopez's fantasy when she walks in on George Clooney, do you know what I mean? And gets in the bathtub with him. What bummed me out was to cheat and make you think it's not a fantasy. They show Ving Rhames and George, you know, uh, uh, get to their place and press the button and then you're in her fantasy. But I kept getting hung up on it's her fantasy. How come it's the exact place they're actually staying in? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So to me, she's never been there. She doesn't know it. Right. I mean, and so I felt they cheated too much. It really bothered me, you know, that she's fantasized. I'm like, why is she fantasizing him about him in that hotel in the same color scheme that he's actually in with Ving Rhames? It bumped me. Wow. That's, that's good. Um, cause I, I thought, yeah, you're right. Watching it a few times, the time thing doesn't mess with you, but it'd been a while. The only one that I thought was hazy was that one leading up to it. Not because of her fantasy, which yeah, you feel like it's cheating a bit, but it also felt like just from a story point, you go, they can't already be at this scene. Like this can't already be the deal, but I think they're coming out of the Lompoc flashback and they shoot it from like high above the hotel at like a weird angle, which I feel like was their way of alerting to you. Like, okay, now we're back in present day. Um, because they just show you this angle they hadn't really done. I don't think in any other spots, but that's always a delicate one. Like Mad Men for me was the all timer when, when Don Draper has the fever dream and he strangles the mistress and then kicks her underneath the bed. And you're at home going, did they just ruin this fucking shit? Like, did he just kill someone in season five or whatever, whatever it is, season four or

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
George Clooney24,980 ftO Brother, Where Art Thou?, 2000, by 5,236 feet.
Don Cheadle24,130 ftHotel Rwanda, 2004, by 5,687 feet.
Ving Rhames20,890 ftRosewood, 1997, by 2,750 feet.
Catherine Keener22,080 ftBeing John Malkovich, 1999, by 4,121 feet.
Samuel L. Jackson26,010 ftPulp Fiction, 1994, by 8,349 feet.
Michael Keaton25,310 ftBeetlejuice, 1988, by 7,651 feet.
Viola Davis24,390 ftFences, 2016, by 6,734 feet.
Albert Brooks23,200 ftFinding Nemo, 2003, by 5,549 feet.

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