Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
36:41 – 39:28… out. And they do it. And they do it really well. Two people nominated for Oscars. Diane Wiest. Randy Newman. Hell yeah. We'll talk about Randy Newman later in Apex Mountain. And $20 million budget made $120 million. Steve was the man at this point. He was the man at this point, Steve Martin. But didn't they do... Something weird happened where it was like at 98. And then they did... Didn't they like re-release it so that it could get over 100 or something like that? I thought I read about it. Yeah, they did a re-release when they got some of the Oscars stuff. There's also a really weird story about... I was …
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But it just came from that, hey, there's not really been a movie about a bunch of people have kids. We should try to figure that out. And they do it. And they do it really well. Two people nominated for Oscars. Diane Wiest. Randy Newman. Hell yeah. We'll talk about Randy Newman later in Apex Mountain. And $20 million budget made $120 million. Steve was the man at this point. He was the man at this point, Steve Martin. But didn't they do... Something weird happened where it was like at 98. And then they did... Didn't they like re-release it so that it could get over 100 or something like that? I thought I read about it. Yeah, they did a re-release when they got some of the Oscars stuff. There's also a really weird story about... I was going to do this in half-asset internet research, but I'll just do it now. So Bill Carter wrote... So Parenthood was made into a TV series immediately. Movie comes out in 89. They make the movie in... The TV show in 1990. Bill Carter in New York Times after it got canceled after 12 episodes. He wrote, Even before Parenthood was released as a movie, NBC decided to make it into a television series. The network saw a rough cut of the film and was convinced that the movie presented a perfect formula for success on television. The multiple family comedy, covering themes both funny and poignant with well-drawn characters ranging from toddlers to grandparents. And the whole piece is about... No, we were wrong. People didn't like this. They didn't watch it. Now, it had a weird cast. It was like David Arquette, a couple people, but the kid, the Leaf Phoenix character, Leo DiCaprio. Wow! So he's the kid for 12 episodes. But it ended this weird boom. Chris, I know you remember this. The late 80s TV shows based on movies that all bombed. Ferris Bueller, Baby Talk, Working Girl, Uncle Buck, Dirty Dancing, where they were just like, let's turn that into a thing. So then, 20 years later, they do it again, and it's a really good show. Did you guys watch Parent of the TV show? I thought that show was good. The first couple of seasons, I did. Yeah, I was like, I did three seasons of it. Van? A little bit. Not that much. I don't, I, because of that run that you, by the way, I know that run. I can't do... You can't do the conversions? Can't do it. Even Friday Night Lights, can't really do it. I know it's a great show. People love it. That's a mess. I know. That's, oh, Van. Van. He's being vulnerable, Bill. Van. Bill, Bill, look, we'll see what's going on. Van, why? This is why people don't open up. I've watched a little bit of the Friday Night Lights, but I have, but like, remember, I remember... The movie's incredible. I'm with you. I remember on that Ferris Bueller's Day Off show, right? On that Ferris Bueller, they had like Charlie Schlattery or whatever his name is,
66:02 – 68:49… it a little bit more relatable. Um, road hit. Road hit his age really well. I thought we were saving this for apex. Yeah. I thought, Dan, you're stepping on apex mountain. I'm so sorry. We'll get back to that. What's age the worst. The baseball scenes mentioned Todd's racing career kind of gets shoehorned into this movie out of nowhere. And we have a whole weird race scene. It's the worst part of the movie. It's. They have to have something dramatic happen at the end of the movie. I guess. They have them be more injured. It's like, he's not really injured. He just climbs out of the car. Then they're like, …
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But like in this money, it's no object. It's like, they actually have to pay for this stuff. And it, it, it kind of makes it a little bit more relatable. Um, road hit. Road hit his age really well. I thought we were saving this for apex. Yeah. I thought, Dan, you're stepping on apex mountain. I'm so sorry. We'll get back to that. What's age the worst. The baseball scenes mentioned Todd's racing career kind of gets shoehorned into this movie out of nowhere. And we have a whole weird race scene. It's the worst part of the movie. It's. They have to have something dramatic happen at the end of the movie. I guess. They have them be more injured. It's like, he's not really injured. He just climbs out of the car. Then they're like, yeah, he actually gets a job out of it. Yeah. So, I mean, the movie, the ending of the movie, if you're going to nitpick, the ending of the movie is. Last 20 minutes is tough. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit hyper Rosie, a little bit. You know what I mean? So he crashes, he's okay. And he gets a job out of it. Everything's just working out for everybody. Chris Lowe, Gans and Bob Lou Mandel, your heroes. Yeah. They kind of needed a closer. They needed Myron Rivera to come in for the. They need Bill Goldman to just come in and be like, here's the third act. Cause city slickers, same thing. Right. Where it's kind of like, Oh, Jack Palance is gone. What are we going to do here? Yeah. Oh, Oh, now we got a ring. Also depends on, you know what they could have done? They could have killed grandma. And if they would have killed grandma, that would have given you a funeral scene to get out on and everybody's together, but that's not what they did. They ended the movie with birth and not death, which was a much more rosier way to end. Probably why it's rewatchable. Right. Why is rewatchable? Right. They could have killed grandma and had her taped to the top of the car, like a national and poons vacation, but they didn't, they didn't do that. The, uh, just what's aged the worst. Just the school's handling of Kevin's emotional problems would not be how they handled it. 2022. Were they like, they like jump the, ambush them with a therapist. Yeah. Coming in from the other door is the therapist. They're like, your kid sucks. And it costs us too much money. And we have to get them out. They expelled him. Yeah. That's never happened. Imagine. Like never, ever happened. You bailed him. Basically. You can't come back to school. Cause that's, that's nuts. You can't, I think that was rich even for then, man. Tell me if I'm wrong, but that, that's, that's a tough one right there. I texted you guys. If they made this movie. Now the kid with emotional problems and the tense face would cause a three week riot on Twitter. And I stand by it. I think it'd be think piece after think piece of, of how badly they handled it. Uh, speaking of badly, things that would never happen. Now the, the worst case scenario, our dream sequence of the kid on the tower shooting everybody. There's also a random line where Harley Jane Kozak is like, we really fell behind because of the bomb threat.
82:23 – 97:06… the whole thing. That's why they call it acting. It's like, it's like finding out that James Cameron doesn't like water. Yeah. He hates it. Jeez, man. Okay. Apex Mountain, Steve Martin. I think we gave it to him already for Father of the Bride. We said late, later, Christie Martin was Father of the Bride. Earlier, Christie Martin was like the jerk. Saturday Night Live, all that stuff. If you're going real Apex Mountain, it's got to be, he's the biggest guest host on Saturday Night Live, which is the biggest comedy show and getting 30 million people per episode. He's in the jerk, which is a huge hit. He is …
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This entire fucking time. Are you kidding me? Like Jesus. Yeah. So the whole thing. That's why they call it acting. It's like, it's like finding out that James Cameron doesn't like water. Yeah. He hates it. Jeez, man. Okay. Apex Mountain, Steve Martin. I think we gave it to him already for Father of the Bride. We said late, later, Christie Martin was Father of the Bride. Earlier, Christie Martin was like the jerk. Saturday Night Live, all that stuff. If you're going real Apex Mountain, it's got to be, he's the biggest guest host on Saturday Night Live, which is the biggest comedy show and getting 30 million people per episode. He's in the jerk, which is a huge hit. He is doing comedy albums that are selling out. He's doing tours that are 20,000 for every standup he does. And he's, you're not topping Steve Martin in 79. What you got, what you guys didn't like, uh, shop girl. You guys didn't dig house sitter. This is heresy going on in this podcast. Mary Steenburgen. What is her Apex Mountain? It's not this. It wouldn't be the, the, the fucking, uh, what's the movie about Howard Hughes? Melvin and Howard. It actually might be this. Yeah. It might be this. It might be this actually. Yeah. It might be this. All right. She also, her character and by, like by extension, her is that she's the, like who Randy Newman wrote the song about. Right. Right. Ron Howard as a director, I think it's beautiful mind just cause he won the Oscar. It has to be. Yeah. because an actor, Apollo 13. Okay. It's gotta be. It's gotta be. It's gotta be a beautiful mind, Chris. Cause you love Apollo 13. Yeah. So do millions of other people. This is not like a weird take. Chris is a patriot. For as an actor, his Apex Mountain was the, um, the scene with in happy days when he misses the free throw, which I would encourage people to look up on YouTube. He misses the game winning free throw. And then his dad offers him a candy bar. It's, it's a, it's the all time best happy day scene. Harley Jane Kozak. Definitely. The 1935 Ford model 48 deluxe convertible. A hundred percent. Apex Mountain. Randy Newman. I think yes, because he had this song gets nominated for an Oscar. And this is really when the, I love LA became the staple of Lakers game. Cause this is 89, right? Yeah. It never got better for Randy Newman. As you can guess, I'm not a huge Randy Newman fan. I'm a huge Randy Newman fan. And I think he's had several Apex mountains. Like he's like, he's like had one of the most mystifying, amazing careers. Toy Story. It's like, yeah. Yeah. He's just like really a delightful little. So Craig saying Toy Story for Randy Newman. Yeah. Well, he came up with the song that they played right after the, uh, 2010 game seven. As the confetti was falling down. I had to hear that fucking song. So I hate Randy Newman. Wrote the score for the natural. Is that true? Yes. Randy Newman is making a case that he's had several Apex's here. He's had an unbelievable career and I hate his guts. Cause he's the Lakers guy. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Dodgers guy as well. Fucking hate him. True. He's, he's like the Lakers victory cigar. Who is the Lakers win? They play his song. I don't like Randy Newman because of that. I have no other reason. Of the Celtics. Who's like the, the chief song for the bot for Boston. No, for Boston, it's dropkick Murphys. Cause that, that got going with the Red Sox in the mid 2000s. And Neil Diamond. Cause Neil Diamond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's, that's newer generation Red Sox fans. The old school Red Sox fans don't like the Neil Diamond as much, but dropkick Murphys. That became, nobody writes songs for the Celtics. No, we have Gino. We have the guy, the, the, in the, the clip when the guy from like studio 54 with the long arms dancing. Oh yeah. That's so much better than Randy Newman. Yeah. The Celtics need to get on that, man. Yeah. Parent comedy movies, Apex mountain. Huh? I was trying to think of some other ones in this vein. All right. So there are a couple of movies here that I like. No, no, no movies that there's a movie with Tom Selleck called folks where Donna Beach is his dad. That movie is fucking hysterical. I like that movie. That movie is hilarious. I'm trying to think of what else though. I mean, would you consider the national lampoons as parent comedies? Those are so young. Yeah. Those are more, more just about classic. I was trying to think of ones with just like a lot of care, like a sprawling movie with a lot of characters, but like tries to have a heart and it's funny. Not a lot of them. It's not, yeah, I don't really do it as much. Yeah. And every, every few years they try like, let's do like a, this is where I leave you kind of like movie. And yeah, they make them, it's a more rare occurrence now that they make these. Finn, what's the, what's the, black movie version of parenthood? They kind of did it. So they've done variations of this, but no, they haven't done the exact parenthood. They haven't done the exact parenthood, but they kind of did. I would make the case that it's soul food. I'll tell you why. Soul food is not nearly as funny as parenthood, but soul food is a story about two generations of black, two, a multi-generational black family. It's more about a matriarch that holds them together, but it is, there's like all of these characters in it. Like in soul food, the cousin that comes in out of nowhere, she's the, the, the brother that comes from nowhere to fuck everything up. You have the main guy who's trying to hold the family a little bit. It's more focused on the kids, you know, but you have all of these inner workers between the sisters. And then you have all of that stuff. There's a marriage. You could make it the, you kind of make the case that the Meek High Pfeiffer character, it's kind of like the Todd character, the new person to the family. But I would say that it was soul food. That might, yeah, that movie's not that funny though. It's not funny at all. Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, to say the least, I'm going to be honest with you. Sometimes when we go through this shit, it's not as funny. Right. Sometimes the issues are a little bit more dire. Kind of like, you know, when, when we going through them, I know that, that, that Todd had it tough about whether he was going to start the house painting business. Or be a, or be a race car driver. Gary struggling with masturbation. Right. But sometimes our problems are a little bit more dire than that. You know, my man was trying to get a job after he got out the fucking pen. And so it's just different, you know? Well, we talk about crossover movies occasionally in the rewatchables. Right. Black Parenthood seems like it's sitting there. It would be good. I think it's a, I also, to be honest with you, if I'm being completely serious is I think though, that we're just getting to a time where we can examine the lives of black characters and not have all of this socioeconomic societal drama that are, that is like injected into the movie. Like just the lives. Like I watched no, that's what I mean. Yeah. Right. I watched no mad land. And I'm like, do they have any movies about black people just roaming around? Like just roaming around, just like dealing with their own lives. Just a self. And I think we're getting to the point now to where we realize that like, we're not just all our struggles, our major struggles against America or the system or whatever. We could just deal with our family dynamics and things. What about just three generations? I'm with it. I'm with it. I mean, they have films out there that are like that. Tell Trayvon, get on it. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing it. We're doing a lot of stuff. Apex mountain, Tom Hulse. I'm going to guess it's Amadeus. I forget what year that came out. Amadeus for sure. Amadeus is like before this, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where do you, where do you rank Amadeus, Tom Hulse and Amadeus versus Garfield and zip, zip, boom or whatever the fuck. Boom. Boom. Boom. Who is more over the top? Are you asking me? Cause I like the composer. I don't know. You've seen both of them. I haven't seen zip, zip, boom. It's tick, tick, boom. Why are you zip, zipping it? Whatever it's called. I'm not watching that. My wife and daughter loved it. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to go watch sports. I'll see you guys later. And then you come back and you're like, how about that? Superbowl. And then they're in there watching tick, tick, boom. You come in there eating like a fucking side of beef. Yeah. You got the man show playing. Hey, I'm up here. Oh, at the end of the night, a rookie made a 15 foot shot. A stretch limo pulls by and throws Ben out of the backseat. It just rolls. Hey, what's for dinner, dad? Yeah. Your friends don't really slow down. Uh, uh, uh, Gans and Mandel apex mountain for them, for your heroes, Chris, I think slickers is right. Yeah. I would say slickers too. Uh, feel good. Little league scenes. Oh, bro. You got a lot of literally competition there. You got, you got fucking rookie of the year. Just float it. Bad news. Bears, bad news. Bear. Well, that's kind of like, he wasn't actually in little league. He was major league baseball. There's an answer to this. Cause it's not parenthood. It is. It's bad news. Bears, breaking training, bad news. Bears too. Or hardball. Tanner. Another Keanu Reeves movie. Oh damn. I forgot about hardball. Hardball. I was thinking about, um, Tanner running around. Everyone chanting, let them play in the Astrodome and bad news. Bears too. That's pretty good too. There's also, but you're right. Hardball, like G baby. I like to think, I like to think that this guy, that the guy in hardball is actually taught. Todd left St. Louis, moved to Chicago. Oh, that's a great one. Then he started gambling because he had, had a couple of conversations. Right. With Gary or that. No, what's his name? With what's his face? With like, they, they had Larry. Larry. Larry connected. And he was like, I'm gonna make somebody like that. He ends up coaching kids. Maybe Larry's bookies, like by Todd's racing team. And they're like, you're going to have to start throwing some races. You know? Uh, apex mountain for funny movie. Great grandmas. Great. Really hard to pull off the super old grandparent character. That's true. And have it be funny. It is very tough. This is up there. Uh, driving blow job accident scenes. So the winner is, um, world according to Garp. Okay. All right. I don't know if you remember that movie, but it was a scene in the book and then they made it a movie. And, uh, where Robin Williams, his wife in the movie is giving her, gosh, she's having an affair with the bull job. And Robin Williams drives into the driveway with the headlights off and re-rents them. And she bites the guy's dick off. Hard to top. Oh, that sounds hilarious, Bill. Hard to top. Christ. It actually, they made a way to make it funny in the next scene. That sounds fucking a barrel of laughs, man. Well, it's not like this was hilarious. Christ. David Lynch movie. Blow job. Blow job. Car accidents are never funny, man. This one, it merits to be funny. Nobody's penis got bit off. This is fucking Oz. Now it's like nuts. Well, that leads us to picky nits. Wouldn't Gil's wife or Gil have been more injured in the car accident? Yes. Yes. Somebody's getting hurt. She's either getting her head slammed against the steering wheel or, you know, he's getting world according to Garp. I just don't feel like they're both walking. We're walking away from that. Well, we have to know more about the nature of the accident. Like, was it like he accidentally like goes up against the guardrail or was there another car involved? Like how damaged is, because it's really unclear. Yeah. This movie really explored the PG 13 parameters. Yes. Yeah. For sure. For sure. It's very heavy on sex. A very sexual movie. There's a lot. Vibrator, porn, blowjobs, porn, blowjob, the whole nine. Yeah. Film it, like taking pictures of yourself, having sex, all this stuff about. By the way, this is not the apex mountain for, for roadhead though. Not the apex mountain for roadhead. What is, what do you have for roadhead? Pam and Tommy Lee. For sure. Of course. An actual, you know, 1997 classic. I called and ordered it on television. Like called, like I called a human being. Like, there was no internet guys. You kids, they just get to do all this stuff. And I was like, I had to call somebody on the phone, give my full name, my credit card number, and ask for that to be sent to my residence. Okay. You have to go the extra mile for it back in the day. So that happened. Those were the days. Um, more picky nets. Rick Moranis singing in the classroom is bad. That's my least favorite. I went through, I just don't like it. Yeah. It's, that's like a fast forward. It's way too long. I can't believe it's as long as it is. Uh, and then the sex photos, like I, I just don't know anybody who just had their sex photos. Developed. Just developed at the local photo place. That is fucking crazy. Nobody did that. Not even in college. People didn't do that. Never heard of that. I feel like there was much more of like, like a taboo around doing that back then. Yeah. You just knew like, we, we went to like spring break and took all kinds of crazy pictures at Galveston, just like girls in bathing suits and stuff like that. When we gave them to the people, there were ones that they would develop. Cause it was like against their, like their ethics and stuff. Yeah. Interesting. Could this be remade as a 10 episode Netflix show? It did get it. That's already happened. Probably unanswerable questions is our next category. I'll ask both of you. Would you have watched a 2000 sequel about cool? Oh, hell yeah. I think I would have too. Yeah. I think parenthood too, could have easily happened. You could have made it into like more of a thriller, like cool on the road, looking for, for Larry. Like, where's like going to Chile. Kind of like taken. You could still make that movie. Like Taylor Hackford directing. It's like proof of life. Caruso's in it for some reason. Yeah. Larry's been like, like making bets for like a Chilean, like syndicate. Cool's around. He's holding up pictures. And it's a picture of like, you know, Tom Hulse and the leather jackets. Like, yo, have you seen this man? He looks like Yarmir Yager. Right. Have you seen this man? Finn, we didn't mention this. How did you feel about cool being named cool? The whole thing was fucked up. I'm going to be honest with you. It's like, it's right. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not, it's one of those things where you watching the movie and you just made the decision not to trip.
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