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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Jaws 1975

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey · 4 July 2018 · 28,858 feet

The claim

68:30 – 71:56

… most scary movies advertise half their scares in the trailers and commercials. The audience is already on guard. So it's pretty tough. The Homestretch. Apex Mountain. Roy Scheider? Yes. Pretty blanket yes on Roy Scheider. No? No. You're All That Jazz. Yeah. I think it's Jaws. Okay. Since I've known you, Chris, you've always been in All That Jazz guy. Yeah. All That Jazz is like a criminally underrated movie from that time period. I think you're confusing best career moment with actual Apex. Okay. Explain the difference. Apex is like he's a guy who's not an A-lister, but a recognizable star who's been in …

The whole segment, as transcribed

Steve Spielberg, everybody. Is that still true? I don't know. I just like it. Well, I think it's different now because most scary movies advertise half their scares in the trailers and commercials. The audience is already on guard. So it's pretty tough. The Homestretch. Apex Mountain. Roy Scheider? Yes. Pretty blanket yes on Roy Scheider. No? No. You're All That Jazz. Yeah. I think it's Jaws. Okay. Since I've known you, Chris, you've always been in All That Jazz guy. Yeah. All That Jazz is like a criminally underrated movie from that time period. I think you're confusing best career moment with actual Apex. Okay. Explain the difference. Apex is like he's a guy who's not an A-lister, but a recognizable star who's been in some good things and now is in this movie that becomes the biggest movie of all time and sets him up to do- It's career peak is what you're saying. Yeah. Yes. I can't believe we've done 25 rewatchables yet and we're still negotiating Apex Mountain. Is this the best this person ever has been? No. It's career peak. We'll have to go back and re-record every podcast. With a little bit of best ever. He's not nominated for Jaws and he is nominated for All That Jazz. Interesting. So you think All That Jazz is the culmination of the Apex? You can make the case that he was a real actor. It's his last truly significant role. And it's the only one of these signature movies that he's in that he actually carries the entire film rather than sharing it with other people. Okay. Good case. Good case. No disrespect to Ben Vereen and All That Jazz. Robert Shaw? No. Oh! Oh! What are you going to say? Phil's really committing to the reenactment. There's a number of other moments. Man for All Seasons is his best. From Russia with Love. He's fine in Russia with Love. The Sting? I think he's better in this. Okay. He's really good in The Sting. I love The Sting. He's great in The Sting. The Sting is really good and never on television and feels like it's two years before Jaws and feels like it was like 30. Guys, you're overthinking this. Think about when they go into his little barn and he's just like, let me see your hands. You got city hands. Never worth a day in your life. You've been cutting money. I was waiting for you to break out a Robert Shaw impersonation. I've been wanting you to say bad fish for a long time. Bad fish. Do you want to do an impersonation? Because I've got a half-assed astronaut. Do you want to talk about Robert Shaw meeting Bono? If we remake this movie, we got to go with Bono as Quint. Excuse me, Mr. President. There's a shark in these waters, sir. Maybe you're too busy caring about the oil in the desert. I don't mean to bug you. Richard Dreyfuss, no, but raises a good question. What was Richard Dreyfuss's apex bound? Oh, my God. I think it's Close Encounters. You answer this one. I think it's Close Encounters. This is tough. He's had a lot of apexes. I'll tell you, I ride or die for Mr. Hall of Topos. I knew you were going to say that. I fucking love that movie. I mean, that is definitively not the right answer. It's not the right answer, but I love that movie. I think it's Close Encounters. I'm going to say, shit, it must be Close Encounters. You could argue the Goodbye Girls since that's like a shitty rom-com that somehow got everybody

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Robert Shaw22,920 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 75 of 100 of this film.
Murray Hamilton18,290 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 20 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Roy Scheider24,940 ftAll That Jazz, 1979, by 4,236 feet.
Lorraine Gary18,070 ftJaws 2, 1978, by 263 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.