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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

John Wick 2014

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Shea Serrano · 17 September 2024 · 25,410 feet

The claim

85:37 – 89:32

67. I'm going to go 112. Shea wins. 84. Boom. Shea's closer to the pin. Apex Mountain. What's Keanu? Matrix? Yes. Yeah, it's got to be Matrix. Has to be, right? Yeah. Yeah. Think about how many things have come out of the Matrix. Imagine doing John Wick and having that not be your Apex Mountain, but apparently we're here. Revenge movies? No. I don't think so. I don't think so either. Fake Hotel Universe is 100% yes. Yeah, 100%. What do you think the awards point system is for the Continental? Do you think they have an app? Do …

The whole segment, as transcribed

67. I'm going to go 112. Shea wins. 84. Boom. Shea's closer to the pin. Apex Mountain. What's Keanu? Matrix? Yes. Yeah, it's got to be Matrix. Has to be, right? Yeah. Yeah. Think about how many things have come out of the Matrix. Imagine doing John Wick and having that not be your Apex Mountain, but apparently we're here. Revenge movies? No. I don't think so. I don't think so either. Fake Hotel Universe is 100% yes. Yeah, 100%. What do you think the awards point system is for the Continental? Do you think they have an app? Do you think you can get like Sapphire tier there and just be like, oh, wow. Well, you've crossed 10,000 coins, Mr. Wick. I got a fourth night for free. Here's a warm cookie. Yeah. I didn't kill anyone in my last 50 stays. They gave me a fourth night. Adrian Palicki. I think Tyra. I feel like season one, season two, Friday Night Lights has to be. Yeah. Even being in the crazy Landry murder plot probably was more Apex-y. She caught a body. The one extra head shot, this is Apex Mountain for me. I really feel like Wick took, it's been in pieces of different movies and Wick's like, we're taking this and making this our thing. Russian boogeymen? 100%. Russian bad guy mafia characters. This is tough because Eastern Promises is getting in the way here. Yeah. I'm going to go Eastern Promises. I like Viggo Mortensen getting a little loose. How about Criminal Nepo Babies? Lovejoy. Oh, I like that. I like that. Defoe, no. Robbery fires where you rob something and then just set it on fire or overtaking it. I feel like I've seen that in movies before, but maybe not. Yeah, Joker did that, right? In Dark Knight. A few people have done that one. How about Viggo? Just the name Viggo was this Apex model. I think Viggo Mortensen gets that. Yeah. Just want to talk it out. How about burying and then digging up your former career underneath concrete? No question. Yes. It has to be. John Wick movies. Yes. Depends on your favorite John Wick movie. I still think that's the best. I like three. I like three. 21st century action movies? I feel like it revitalized the genre in some ways in America. I don't know if I'm accurate on that. I'm going to say no only because it didn't do well in the movies. But it was actually one of those last movies, not last movies, but it was one of those movies that you knew they were going to make a sequel because everybody was still talking about it. It felt like they were just scratching the surface of the world rather than like, oh, you can't top that, right? I'm not saying this just because Shay's here. But I think if you're comparing Fast 4 to Wick 1, Fast 4 left. I left the theater and I'm like, there's going to be six more of those. Yeah. It was just so clear. They had stumbled on the right recipe and it was still going, Wick. Whether they knew they were going to make a sequel or not, who knows? It seems like they were barely trying to get the movie done. But Fast 4, I was like, we're off now. The family is together. What's next? When's the next one coming out? We now understand the motivations. Oh, new category for you, Shay, since the last time we heard it. Cruise or Hanks? I like it. You had to cast John Wick. It's got to be Cruise. We saw it in Collateral. He did it already. It's 100% Cruise.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Keanu Reeves25,570 ftThe Matrix, 1999, by 5,194 feet.
Willem Dafoe25,110 ftSpider-Man, 2002, by 6,937 feet.
John Leguizamo21,600 ftIce Age, 2002, by 3,952 feet.
Bridget Moynahan19,410 ftPrey, 2007, by 1,769 feet.
Ian McShane19,730 ftKung Fu Panda, 2008, by 2,090 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.