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Escape from New York 1981

With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano and Chris Ryan · 29 April 2020 · 24,577 feet

The claim

58:01 – 61:04

… of the airplane at the beginning of the movie was the son of Gerald Ford, Stephen Ford. Okay. Who was trying to be an actor at that time. So there you go. Apex mountain. The Kurt Russell case can be a yes or it can be a no. It's certainly my favorite Kurt Russell moment, but I do think he wasn't a big star when this movie came out and went on to do a lot of things. The Goldie Hawn marriage was a huge thing for him. So I honestly don't even know what his apex mountain was. It just feels like he's been around for 40 years. This is a great debate. I think that arguably it's, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, …

The whole segment, as transcribed

And when they were trying to figure out Michael Myers, they were just like, hey, Nick, put a mask on and he became Michael Myers. And then, uh, the secret service agent attempted to break into the cockpit of the airplane at the beginning of the movie was the son of Gerald Ford, Stephen Ford. Okay. Who was trying to be an actor at that time. So there you go. Apex mountain. The Kurt Russell case can be a yes or it can be a no. It's certainly my favorite Kurt Russell moment, but I do think he wasn't a big star when this movie came out and went on to do a lot of things. The Goldie Hawn marriage was a huge thing for him. So I honestly don't even know what his apex mountain was. It just feels like he's been around for 40 years. This is a great debate. I think that arguably it's, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Tango and Cash, like, wasn't that like a really, really, really big deal? Like there was a really big Hollywood movie when it came out. That, yeah, he had that one in backdraft back to back. I remember being like, this is a moment. Could it be Tombstone? Because he, you know, he rewrote a lot of that movie. We did that podcast about how important he was for that movie. But Tombstone was a little bit more of like, it was his, it was his renaissance, right? Like it was like, he'd kind of been out of the mix for a little while. And then he comes and does Tombstone in 93 after Captain Ron, which people didn't really love. I mean, Shay, I think that's right. It's like around Tango and Cash backdraft is probably when he's his biggest star. My favorite, my favorite Kurt Russell is still Big Trouble though. Yeah, mine, mine too. But if we're looking at Kurt Russell's career as a whole and we're like retrofitting everything, I think Escape from New York is when you go like, okay, this is, this guy is the fucking guy. Bill, where are you at? Where are you at with Tequila Sunrise? Oh, love it. Yeah. Love it. Good one. Yeah, maybe it's probably somewhere there. It's late 80s. He's with Goldie Hawn already. He's a big enough star that they have to make Escape from LA. Maybe Escape from LA is weirdly the making of that movie is probably his apex. Ox Baker. Yes. Adrian Barbeau was on Maud for like six years. And that was one of the 10 biggest shows during a time when every TV show was watched by 30 million people. So I feel like Maud was her apex. John Carpenter, Halloween. 1997? Apex? What else is in there? I was trying to remember what happened in 1997 in real life. And it's like Jordan beat Utah the flu game. Bill Clinton, the Lewinsky scandal starts. The internet is kind of rounding into shape. Music starting to get really bad. It wasn't a great movie year. Face Off came out in 97. That's the only thing I remember from 97. To make the case. And then dystopian New York movies. I think this is number one. This is definitely number one. New York has gone to hell. So, picking nits. Can we talk about a president flying to some summit to save the world? He's got a tracking bracelet. He's handcuffed to his briefcase. He's got a cassette tape that includes his secret to using nuclear fusion to replace electricity as a peace offering. No other copies of the tape? Nope. Just that one? Just a sneak plissken just walking out of a prison with that in his pocket.

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Kurt Russell24,820 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 90 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Donald Pleasence20,770 ftHalloween, 1978, by 2,760 feet.
Ernest Borgnine20,520 ftThe Poseidon Adventure, 1972, by 2,589 feet.

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