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Fatal Attraction 1987

With Bill Simmons, Mallory Rubin and Wesley Morris | The Rewatchables · 20 August 2019 · 26,196 feet

The claim

87:30 – 93:59

… you read that he like alternated days of the week for which set he was on? Is that true? What an actor. Can that be true? Is that possible? That brings us to Apex Mountain. This was Michael Douglas' Apex Mountain. This movie comes out same year as Wall Street. And he wins the Oscar for Wall Street. And he's never been better and had more power or anything. No. This is the peak of an awesome career. Glenn Close? I'll let you answer that one, Wesley. Is the number one Glass Clothes fan. Apex Mountain for her here? Apex Mountain. Okay. I mean, in terms of like her commercial, it's the biggest movie she's ever …

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At least the rabbit is dead. And then Michael Douglas was filming Wall Street at the same time, which I was. I'm always stunned when actors can do two movies. This is wild. So did you read that he like alternated days of the week for which set he was on? Is that true? What an actor. Can that be true? Is that possible? That brings us to Apex Mountain. This was Michael Douglas' Apex Mountain. This movie comes out same year as Wall Street. And he wins the Oscar for Wall Street. And he's never been better and had more power or anything. No. This is the peak of an awesome career. Glenn Close? I'll let you answer that one, Wesley. Is the number one Glass Clothes fan. Apex Mountain for her here? Apex Mountain. Okay. I mean, in terms of like her commercial, it's the biggest movie she's ever been in. It's not the best performance she's given. There's any number of candidates for that. I would say the next year, the year she lost the Oscar to Jodie Foster for The Accused, that I think like film performance wise is her great movie performance and Dangerous Liaisons. Mm-hmm. But I mean, she- You know my feeling about that one. No, I don't. It's an Oscar travesty. You mean that it didn't win anything? That it lost a reigning? Her not winning for Dangerous Liaisons is outrageous. Her not winning- She- With all due respect to Jodie Foster and The Accused. She was- Jodie Foster really good in The Accused. But- But Glenn Close. That was one of those, you left the movie theater and you were like, Close to Malkovich. Oh my God. Yeah. What just happened? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Glenn Close- I remember where I saw that movie. We left and we were like, what just happened? That was amazing. Also, the best last, like in terms of a performance closing a movie, that is one of the greatest performances to end a movie I can think of. Apex Mountain. Ann Archer, not just for her career, but- Gotta be. For my love, other than my daughter and my wife, maybe my third favorite female ever. Maybe Mallard, maybe your third. Thank you. Top five. Just, what a performance player. Well, he's incredible. You know why she was so easy to market? She lost to Olympia Dukakis, by the way, which, I mean, to be fair, oh, come on. That's your winner. I love you, Ann Archer. But Olympia Dukakis and Moonstruck is- This is Beth Gallagher. Oh my God. Yes. If you ever come near my family again, I'll kill you. Do you understand? Do you understand? It's like this weird English accent. I love the way that she puts on her evening moisturizer in the mirror. That's actually kind of the sexiest moment of the movie. Great underwear. Isaac's nodding. Yes. Great underwear. But the other thing about, like, think if they had switched parts. Think if they had switched parts. If Glenn Close- The movie doesn't work. Because you're like, run away with her. Yeah. She is so captivating. No, no, no. I'm with you. Apex Mountain, Bedford, New York. I say yes. I don't know. I'm just throwing that. Psychotic female villains? It's the movies. There's so many to choose from. It's definitely, it has its coaching tree now. You know, a lot of other movies are in this mold and in this template. And I, you know, to your point earlier, maybe not. Maybe that's not a good thing. But it definitely continued to inspire a generation of those. Well, I think it's only not good because the movies that deal with this as a character, as a personality trait, don't have the sophistication to really do it. And the actors aren't good enough. Don't put Smart Chain that rocks the credo or single-waste. With all due respect to the, uh... Well, Jennifer Jason Leigh, I would say, understood. That movie was good. She was on a different planet. Also in the running for Alex. Right. According to one of the many rumors. According to one of the many rumors. The more names that keep coming, there clearly was only one choice. I mean, there are 60 names. It's one of those. Like, if you were like, you know, Bette Midler was up for, I don't know. She might have been. Right, but Glenn Close is the only person. She had no competition as far as I can see. We got to move. Picking Nets. What about Apex Mountain for the director? What do you think? He had so many hits. I mean, yeah, it's the best movie he ever made. It's the best movie as a movie. He was nominated for Best Director. Had ever made, yes. I would say yes. This was also just a, it was on the heels of nine and a half weeks. So it's like the closest concentration of his best films. What about really cool elevators where you have to like pull them down? Is it this or is it unfaithful? It's this. It's this because she had complete command over that elevator. I just, I can't get enough of that shot. That's like, just meme that when you've got something, when you, when you've got this, just have Glenn Close close your elevator gate. Thinking about this movie in the meme generation is like pretty exciting. Yeah. There would be some incredible. Some great ones. Yep. Picking nits. Oh boy. There are a lot. Let's go. At what point should Dan have realized that Alex might be a lunatic? Here are the five nominees. During their first drink. At the dog park. At the dog park. When she lied about when she was like, oh, my dad died that way. I'm just kidding. The hissy fit when she tried to leave. The unfortunate suicide attempt. Or the M butterfly invite at the office. At what point on that checklist is he like, oh God. Cause I'm going with the dog park. Well, he claims Madame Butterfly. I would have been like, I'm out. That's weird. Remember the story that he tells about Madame Butterfly? Mm-hmm. The Madame Butterfly story, like the thing that sort of bonds them to each other in some ways is that this opera means something to both of them. Mm-hmm. That's the, like, he mentions a parent in this movie and it's, it's father took him to see Madame Butterfly. Again, this is set up for the ending that we don't get. Right. Because at, in the moment where we see her cutting her throat, the opera is playing against that moment. So, I think it's, again, it's a hard part of the movie to talk about, but it's the, it's the, the risks. Yeah. Okay. It has to be. Well, that leads me to the next one. Oh, no. Because that's no. It's the dress at the party. I'm sorry. It's the dress at the party. What? Because it's too much. Now, I know it's the 80s and we've got weird, like, remember how we were really into Japanese culture in 1980s, like, sushi was fascinating, sumo was fascinating, we loved, like, Sony was fascinating. The designs. Japanese culture, we, we were so into it. Like, the Japanese-ness of Blade Runner. Yeah. I think there was something about Glenn Close at that Japanese exercise book release party. It just was too much. I think there's, like, an excess to that character that might be attractive, but it's definitely,

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Glenn Close24,380 ftDangerous Liaisons, 1988, by 3,609 feet.
Michael Douglas24,990 ftWall Street, 1987, by 5,056 feet.
Anne Archer19,300 ftNarrow Margin, 1990, by 706 feet.

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