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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Con Air 1997

With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano and Chris Ryan · 18 December 2018 · 23,281 feet

The claim

50:12 – 56:38

… studio, but I greenlit it anyway. On the DVD commentary of Chappelle's show, Chappelle said that he improvised most of his lines on Con Air. So there you go. Apex Mountain. I only have three people on here, unless you want to throw Buscemi on here. Okay. Oh, fuck it. Let's do him too. Nick K. Jpex Mountain? Yeah. Oh, by far. I mean, it's this period. Is this the peak of his career? Because now he's combined. No, but is this right here the peak of his career? I think it's The Rock, but you could make the argument that this is it. Yeah. I would say this because it made like over 200 million bucks. Do you guys …

The whole segment, as transcribed

That's a good place to put prisoners, I suppose. I'm in. I just greenlit it. We don't run a studio, but I greenlit it anyway. On the DVD commentary of Chappelle's show, Chappelle said that he improvised most of his lines on Con Air. So there you go. Apex Mountain. I only have three people on here, unless you want to throw Buscemi on here. Okay. Oh, fuck it. Let's do him too. Nick K. Jpex Mountain? Yeah. Oh, by far. I mean, it's this period. Is this the peak of his career? Because now he's combined. No, but is this right here the peak of his career? I think it's The Rock, but you could make the argument that this is it. Yeah. I would say this because it made like over 200 million bucks. Do you guys like this or The Rock more? This one for sure. This is so much better. Wow. So much better than The Rock. Because it's not as quote unquote serious. I don't like Sean Connery. Yeah. Connery's not that good in The Rock. It's like dirty secret. No. Shay and I have discussed it in the past. Really? Yeah. Why? He's not that good. Just watch The Rock. Connery's not that good in it. Well, he's like an old man. Yeah. He's not good. He's like humping around like just doing Scottish accent. I mean like. Great. That doesn't sound fun. Yeah. Okay. He's an old man trying to do a Scottish accent. No, not trying to do. He's just like talking in a Scottish accent. It's like he's running around Alcatraz. Yeah. He's bad in that movie. I don't like it. Ed Harris is incredible in that movie. He is. Connery kills it. He's really good. I cannot give that order. It's like that's a great, great scene. But the thing about The Rock is if they had never done anything at all and just let the soldiers go like nobody would have died. Ed Harris was going to shut it down anyway. Right. They should have called his bluff. Right. Right. So you don't like the premise of The Rock as much. I just don't like. I'm not a big Sean Connery fan. Okay. I like prison movies. I need as much prison as possible. Yeah. I like when Nick Cage is like big and beefy. He's a nerd in The Rock. He's a chemical super freak. But he was miscast in The Rock. I don't want that. He's fine in it. It's a good movie. But this is a Nick Cage movie. This is the one. Okay. For me, this was like he wins the Oscar. He's for years and years. It's like Nick Cage is going to be a big actor. He's going to be a big actor. And he had some good ones. Nothing great. Never really happened. And then he wins the Oscar. And then he makes The Rock. And it's like, all right. But then Connery and it's like, all right, this guy is a major star. He's going for stardom. So I felt like this was when I was like, oh, Nick Cage is in our life for the long haul. Yes. Which turned out to be kind of wrong because about five years later it was over. Yeah. He started making weird movies. It's interesting. I wonder what it would have been like. I wonder what of this generation of guys that we have now who would have been a good action star because it's kind of all twisted up because they just put on superhero, either superhero clothing or like an Iron Man's case, like a metal suit. So you don't really get that same action movie star that you used to in the 80s and 90s. You know who's in this movie now? Who's the Hemsworth from Rush? Chris, right? Yeah, it's Chris Hemsworth. Hemsworth. He's kind of here. Craig's nodding. Chris Hemsworth plays Cameron Poe? Craig's nodding over there. Yeah. And who plays Vince? He plays Cameron Poe, but he tries to do a Southern accent and it goes badly. And about 30 minutes into the movie, just somehow the character is Australian. Who do you have? Which is it? Do you have like Miles Teller play Vince? Oh, that's interesting. Miles Teller, huh? Not Lucas Hedges? That would be hilarious. Chalamet? They're a little young to be US Marshals. How about Chalamet? You need older. Who is the Malkovich? Army. Army. It's just the common by your name cast, but now it's caught air. That's a great question. Who should play Malkovich? It's a tough one. Who would play Cyrus? Jeremy Strong from Succession. Apex Mountain, Nick Cage, I vote yes. I vote yes. Chris votes no? Or you vote no? No, I'm going to allow it. Treo? No, Heat. No. What's his Apex Mountain then? For his career or just like- First career. For his career. Probably Treo's tacos. What was the peak of Treo? It's machete. Yeah, you're right. I think it's right now, now that he's a brand. He has all these businesses now. Yeah, he does. I think when we gave him a category in the rewatchables, that was probably his name. Malkovich? No, I think you're right. I think it's probably- It's not Malkovich. I think it's- I think it's like Dangerous Liaison's era. Yeah. And Buscemi. No, this isn't his- No way. Yeah. His Apex. All right. But he can be in there. That's one of the great things about this movie is it's just, it caught a lot of people, but not at their Apex. Yeah. They were just all really good at what they were doing, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. The Joey Pants Award presented to the actor or actress that makes you go, oh, that guy or oh, that girl, but you can't remember what their name is. There's a couple nominees. Cruzito. Mm-hmm. I know his name though, so he's out for me. MC Gaines' Swamp Thing. Yeah. I bet you didn't know that was MC Gaines. No, I did. That's good. I don't know who MC Gaines is. I just know it was Swamp Thing. Was he in the American Badass video? He looks like he would be in that video. He might have been. Yeah, I don't know. I watched, I re-watched it for this thing and I liked Kid Rock at that time. Yeah. And then I watched it and there's like a bunch of Confederate flags in there and I was like, oh, cool. Ooh. Cool, cool, cool. I don't remember that. Yeah. They show one real fast and then there's like another guy wearing a shirt and it was like, then it becomes prominently featured and you're like, wait a second. I don't remember this part. Rachel Tickatin. Tickatin? Tickatin. Tickatin? I think it's Tickatin. Tickatin? The Guard. I personally do not think she's in that girl because she's, I know her as her because of Total Recall and Man on Fire and this movie. I feel like that's enough of a body of your work. Yeah. Some people might not know this, but the winner is- Kind of a patron saint for the rewatchables by being in Man on Fire and this. That's great. I mean, she's fantastic. Yeah. Actually, wanted a little more for her career. Yeah. Always liked her. She's good in Fisher King. And that's Mercedes' rule. I'm sorry. See, this is why she needed better stuff. The winner, though, is Rinaldi Santiago, who I texted to earlier. He's really only been in two movies. He was in this movie as the controversial Sally Can't Dance character. Right. But more importantly was the guy from Dangerous Minds. Yes. The little guy who ends up winning the class prize. He feuds with, what's the guy's name?

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Nicolas Cage25,320 ftFace/Off, 1997, by 5,646 feet.
John Malkovich24,570 ftIn the Line of Fire, 1993, by 5,078 feet.
John Cusack24,600 ftSay Anything..., 1989, by 5,928 feet.
Ving Rhames20,890 ftRosewood, 1997, by 2,839 feet.
Steve Buscemi21,470 ftLiving in Oblivion, 1995, by 3,824 feet.
Rachel Ticotin18,340 ftF/X2, 1991, by 712 feet.

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