Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
19:05 – 21:53… this movie. Yeah. From a star PowerPoint, which is one of the reasons this movie did so well. They're catching Demi Moore. I mean, you could argue this is her apex mountain. You could say it was when she got $20 million for striptease, but I actually think it's right around here because she was in Ghost in 1990, which we covered. Yes. And that was the one that made her, you know, an A-list super duper star. She's in A Few Good Men. Right. She is in Mortal Thoughts with her husband. And then she's in this movie. This is the best she's looked in a movie, I think. Like, she's just peak of her powers. Flawless. …
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You got to end up happy with somebody. We should mention the three stars of this movie. Yeah. From a star PowerPoint, which is one of the reasons this movie did so well. They're catching Demi Moore. I mean, you could argue this is her apex mountain. You could say it was when she got $20 million for striptease, but I actually think it's right around here because she was in Ghost in 1990, which we covered. Yes. And that was the one that made her, you know, an A-list super duper star. She's in A Few Good Men. Right. She is in Mortal Thoughts with her husband. And then she's in this movie. This is the best she's looked in a movie, I think. Like, she's just peak of her powers. Flawless. Fucking flawless hot. Yeah. Woody, last season of Cheers, ending a month after this movie comes out. He's already a star from Wet Men Can't Jump and has really moved into this weird, there's a lot of good actors, but he definitely has, like, a hook. Everybody likes Woody, right? And they're starting to tap into that. He's making movies left and right. And then Redford is at the tail end of his prime as an A-lister. They're late 50s. The sun. Starting to look a little weathered, but still looks really good in this movie. I'm sure you have some thoughts here. But this was, like, one of the more commercial movies that he made in the 90s. It starts to get pretty weird from him after that. But give me your Redford thoughts. As we know, you like older men. You're not shy about it. You're married to one. I think that Robert Redford gives a very compelling performance and looks incredibly handsome as he does in every movie that he has ever made because he's one of the best-looking people who has ever lived. That's my formal stance on the matter. Just an incredibly handsome guy. I mean, much like the Brad Pitt thing. Yeah. I think the difference with Redford was he was always careful about the movies he was in. Like, you look at this run he has after this movie. It was, like, his last attempt to be a leading man. Up close and personal with Michelle Pfeiffer. Same kind of character where it's like, am I supposed to like this person? He's in The Horse Whisperer, The Last Castle, Spy Game. It just kind of goes sideways. This was the last time I think he could have pulled off a part like this. Mm-hmm. And much like if we talk about, like, Brad Pitt or Leo now, Brad Pitt probably three years from now, it's a little creepy if he's trying to pay a 30-year-old to be whatever. But it's supposed to be creepy. Yeah. To me, it didn't feel 100% creepy for some reason. Maybe it's because it was rooted in 1993. It seemed like a realistic movie plot in 1993. Now it would be insane. Unbelievable. The Vegas setting certainly heightens the surreality of all of it.
75:43 – 80:50… he— We have to film all casino stuff late at night. So they were doing 3 a.m. for a few weeks there, and I don't know if Woody was handling it fantastically. Apex Mountain. Demi Moore, I'm going to say yes. Really? Yeah. I think this is it. Oh, wow. I'm surprised by this. You get this movie. Okay. The more— And we might have given her Apex Mountain for another movie, but the more I thought about it, for this movie to make almost $300 million— That's true. That's true. It also paved the way for her to get the $20 million check for strip tease. Right. She's coming off Ghost and Few Good Men. Hmm. Um, she's …
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Oh, and the Vegas shoots all started at 3 a.m. I was like, little details like that. Yeah. That was in the premiere article. Because he— We have to film all casino stuff late at night. So they were doing 3 a.m. for a few weeks there, and I don't know if Woody was handling it fantastically. Apex Mountain. Demi Moore, I'm going to say yes. Really? Yeah. I think this is it. Oh, wow. I'm surprised by this. You get this movie. Okay. The more— And we might have given her Apex Mountain for another movie, but the more I thought about it, for this movie to make almost $300 million— That's true. That's true. It also paved the way for her to get the $20 million check for strip tease. Right. She's coming off Ghost and Few Good Men. Hmm. Um, she's married to Bruce Willis. That's probably the most stable, beloved celebrity relationship at the time. Right. It's just things are going great for Demi Moore. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I also think it's Apex Mountain for super hot Demi Moore. Chuck 93 up is— Flawless. Flawless. Woody Harrelson, I'm going to say yes, too. Coming off White Men Can't Jump. Coming off this movie. End of Cheers. Yeah. The improbable, oh, you know who's going to be the big winner when Cheers ends? It's going to be Woody Harrelson. Right. And he was— That was a big talking point that year. He was the improbable post-Cheers star from that show. Well, and Chris Ryan's not here to say that Apex Mountain for Woody is True Detective Season 1. I know. Thank God. So you can get away with this slander. And Andy Greenwald would have thrown up. Robert Redford, no way. Absolutely not. Sade and Seal. No. Not for Seal. No way. Seal is like one of the most— Peak Sade right around now. Seal is too prevalent of a needle drop across pop culture. Probably the Batman movie. What was Kiss from a Rose? Yeah. That felt like he was gigantic at that point. That had a big run on Yellow Jackets, too. You know? We got to talk about that later. I'm too behind, and I might not keep watching. Two was— I would say Push Past 2. Push Past the second episode. Okay. Yeah. Terry Muggler, I think was— I don't even know if I pronounced that right, but I'm going to say Apex Mountain for them. Adrian Lyne, no. Craps, no. Fucking had a big pile of money, yes. Ooh, yeah. And then I got John F. Kennedy Jr. Come on. He's in Seinfeld that year. He's a lawyer. They're basing an indecent proposal around him. He's married. Things are great for John F. Kennedy Jr. Never been better. Future presidential candidate. Hasn't made George the magazine yet. Just whole life's in front of him. Apex Mountain. Best racehorse name. Indecent Proposal is a great name for a racehorse. Okay, it is. That's a great one. What'd you have? Million Dollar Club. Oh, that's really good. Even a Brick Wants to Be Something. Paradise Cove. Not bad. Table shoes. Just because I wanted to mention at some point the disgusting, vile habit that David has of leaving his dirty sneakers on the table. Awful. The Griffin. There are a lot of racehorse names in this movie. I like Million Dollar Club. Well, I can't wait because it's time for Pick and Nets. Boy. So, what billionaires look like Robert Redford? Billionaires, like historically, not that attractive guys. Okay. I will argue the other side of this, which is the quarterback corollary, right? The quarterbacks are often handsome because they grow up feeling confident. They get opportunities, etc. Do you have any trouble believing that Robert Redford's John Gage, who is like a businessman, but like, what's he doing all day? He's schmoozing, right? He's at lunches. He's at the poker table. Okay, who's real life John Gage right now, then? I don't know. I don't study billionaires. No, it's just. I couldn't say. I don't. I think one of the reasons billionaires has become billionaires is because they don't look like Robert Redford. And they're throwing everything into whatever they're doing. It'd be pretty rare. It'd be like John Gage would have, I think, been a thing in the early 90s. Right. Where this handsome single billionaire. Yeah. We would have heard a lot about John Gage. Mm-hmm. Do you buy him as a multimillionaire? But not a billionaire? Is that where you draw the line? He would be a successful person. I thought he was a great billionaire. I liked watching him gamble. I liked his assuredness at all times. The way he just orders up another mill. I liked that he had Shackelford. He was a very believable billionaire for me. All right, Vegas fuck-ups. Here we go. Man. Let me tell you something. One of the things I know is Vegas and casinos. There is zero percent chance, none, that John Gage is gambling anywhere near the craps tables. There is zero percent chance. He is in his own fucking area. Yeah. He's on a different floor. Nobody's interacting with him. He's not just like, oh, I'm going to go with the common folk and play for a million dollars.
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